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This person's connection to this COUNTS.GED has yet to be confirmed.
[Johannes] "John" CUNTZE, at age 8, immigrated to Germanna, Virginia, USA in 1714
with father, [Joseph] "Jost" CUNTZE and family. His Mother died enroute or
shortly after arrival at Germanna, Virginia, USA.
Johannes CUNTZE/KUNTZ/COONS/COUNS/COUNTS m Anna Elisabetha [Catherine] STOEVER on 25 Jun 1728 in Earltown, Pennsylvania, USA.
He may have returned to GERMANY about 1729 and returned again to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA on 30 NOV 1730 on ship "Joyce", Master was Captain Atilliam FORD
of Boston.
He may have lived awhile in southern Pennsylvania, about thirty miles from half brothers, Henry CUNTZE, in northern Virginia and Tillman CUNTZE in western Maryland.
It is also possible that he is the same John COUNTS granted 350 acres of land in
South Carolina in 1751.
Jim WHITE say's it is reasonable to assume Johannes CUNTZE was born near Oberfishbach, about halfway between Frankfurt and Dortmund, GERMANY perhaps forty miles east of Cologne.
John (KOONTZ) [COUNTS] estate settled in 1778 in Augusta County, VA who late in life married Elizabeth (HETTERICH) ERMENTROUT.
The information above was supplied by Shadrick Counts from Ancestry.com file tnshad
History of the Descendents of John Koontz. by Lowell Koontz
(6327 Phyllis Lane, Alexandria VA 22312), 1979.
"JOHN (CUNTZ) KOONTZ
thought to be the son of immigrant Joseph Cuntz and Anna Gertrud
Reinschmidt, married Anna Elisabetha Catherine Stoever,
daughter of Reverand John Casper Stoever, Sr. On 25 June 1738 at
Earltown, Pa. by Reverand John Casper Stoever, Jr. (Itef. 203,
p. 56) (Ref. 202, p. 93)
John born 18 Apr. 1706 Niederndorf, Germany, died after 1745,
the last year any records can be found on John and Elizabeth. On
5 Aug. 1745 John of Frederick Co. sold 195 acres of land to
Lewis Stephens and Elizabeth surrendered her dower on 6 Aug.
(Ref. Fredericls Co. D.B. 1, pp. 227 & 229)
Descendants of our lineage believe the father of John was Joseph
Cuntz, as named above, the 1714 Germanna immigrant. Evidence
seems to indicate Joseph was John's father but as Joseph's will
does not mention his son, John, there is no proof. (Ref. 202,
pp. 104 & 105) The evidence that associates John Cuntz as the
son of the Germanna immigrant Joseph Cuntz is as follows:
(A) Holtzolaw (Ref. 202, p. 93) lists John born 18 Apr. 1706 in
Niederndorf, Germany as the son of Jost Kuntze (Joseph Koontz)
and first wife, Anna Gertrud Reinschmidt, the daughter of Martin
Reinschmidt of Lower Wilden.
(B) Immigrant Joseph Cuntz is listed with his second wife,
Katherina, and his son John Annalis (sic) and Kathrina his
daughter (Ref. 209, p. 370) and also a daughter Elizabeth (Ref.
202, p. 93) This establishes the fact Joseph had a son, John, he
brought to America. The (sic) indicates that Annalis was not a
part of his name at all but was part of his sister's name, Anna
Elizabeth, and that the original record was in German and this
mistake has been made in translation. (Ref. 17, p. 282)
(C) Johanes Coones or Johannes Cuntz (two different spellings on
ship list) age 24 arrived in the port of Philadelphia 30 Nov.
1730 on the ship "Joyce. " Presented to the Court of
Philadelphia were the names of 24 Palatines, who with their
families made about 52 persons that were imported on the ship
"Joyce" from Europe by Captain Atilliam Ford oi Boston. (Ref.
201, pp. 37 & 38) This may cxplain why Joseph Cuntz did not list
his son, John, in his will as his son may have returned to
Germany before returning to America in Nov. Of 1730.
(D) John married the daughter of John Casper Stoever, Sr. the
pastor Of the Hebron Church founded by the 1717 Germanna Colony.
John Casper Stoever, Sr. came from Germany via England and
Pennsylvania to Virginia, where he had been licensed by Governor
Spotswood to become pastor of the Lutheran Church now in Madison
Co., Va. but then in Spotsylvania Co. (Ref. 205, p. 62) The
Orange Co. W.B. 1, pp. 237-238 lists Elizabeth Catherine Cuntze
as a daughter and one of the heirs of Reverand John Casper
Stoever, Sr.
Subject:
License of Rev. Stoever
Date:
Tue, 17 Oct 2000 05:56:49 -0400
From:
John Blankenbaker
To:
guyz@cookeville.total-web.net
When Rev. John Caspar Stoever started his work in the Robinson River
Valley, Spotswood had been gone from Williamsburg for more than ten years
so could hardly have licensed Stoever. In addition, none of the ministers
were licensed by the colony.
(E) Joseph Cuntze's will was dated 18 Oct. 1730 and probated 10
Feb. 1731 Stafford Co. W.B. 1729-48, p. 22 (Ref. 202, p. 93) as
Joseph died early in 1731 and was possibly in failing health in
1730. This adds reason to the return of John to America on the
ship "Joyce."
It has not been possible to establish that John did return to
Europe but in light of the above evidence it is believed that
John is, in fact, the son of Joseph Cuntz the 1714 immigrant.
John Cuntz and his wife moved from Pa. to Frederick Co., Va
after their marriage. John Koontz of Orange Co. was deeded 195
acres by John Branson of Orange Co. on 23 June 1739. (Orange Co.
D B 3, p. 191) This land now is located in Frederick Co., Va.
after the change in the boundary (1738-43). While they were
living at Opequon, Va. located 4 to 5 miles S.S.W. of
Winchester, Va. their son John was born 26 Mar. 1739. (Ref. 203,
p. 13) That this John born 26 Mar. 1739 was the later Elder John
Counts of the current Page Co. area has been well established by
born C. Holtzelaw.
At Jobn's birth in what is now Frederick Co., Va. the sponsors
were Casper Stoever (the Uncle), Jacob Neuschanger, and lsfaria
Baumann. John and Anna Elizabeth Catherine, his wife, were
sponsors at Opequon 29 Apr. 1740 for John, son of Johann
Broband. (Ref. 203, p. 13)
"Jacob Neuschwanger, sponsor of the child John Cuntz in 1739
(Later Elder John Koontz), was the son-in-law of Melchior
Brumback, the 1714 Germanna colonist. " (Ref. 202, p . 105)
The last appearance of the couple in Frederick records was 6 Aug
1745 when Elizabeth surrendered her dower."